Berlin-based composer Chiyoko Szlavnics and host Josh Thorpe discuss phenomenology, psychoacoustics, making music from pictures, and the wonderful experience of listening to, and playing, Indian dhrupad music. We listen to For Eva Hesse, a work using sine waves that beat and shimmer, as well as a track by Uday Bhawalkar, who can seem to make a whole chord bend with just his slow vocal glissandi.